S01E17 Finiteness, Insufficiency, How Awakening Humans Go To War & The Boundaries Inside of Us

The Chorus introduces the 2 Core Tenets of the game: Finiteness and Insufficiency. Katie discusses the ways these fundamental, underlying constructs appear throughout human perception, including scarcity, incomplete solutions, and the experience of loss. She also describes how boundaries are founded upon these two concepts, namely, that our resonance with finiteness creates ‘walls’ between our perception and the infinite, in others and in ourselves. Enjoy!

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Excerpts from The Chorus

“It was not always that humanity was so limited.  You came from a place of infinite love and infinite energy.  And gradually, as you resonated with these frequencies of disallowance, you created more and more beliefs that disallowed your perception of the infinite. That is, you gave yourselves an experience of limitation.

The two first beliefs that you manifested here, are the beliefs in finiteness and insufficiency.  That is, that what is available to you in the Five Senses world, is finite.  That it cannot, does not, show up infinitely in your sensory perceptions.  And also, relatedly, that what does show up is often not enough.  Or, is just barely enough.

Combined, these two core tenets of your existences, of your manifested realities, of your experience of these frequencies, created, essentially, the underlying structure for the entire game field. Most specifically, we would like to say that all players who experience any degree of finiteness and insufficiency, are on your game board.

There is a great deal of these beliefs that you are becoming conscious of.  You understand that there are not infinite resources on your planet.  You understand that there is not always enough food to go around.  You understand that there is just enough daylight in your days to get done what you wish to get done.

And so, Beloved Ones, in some ways you are becoming conscious to these aspects of existence.  Yet, as usual, we would like to point out larger impacts of these beliefs in the way they structure your day-to-day realities. That there is a great deal about these beliefs that you are yet unconscious to…

Understand that as a human goes out into the world, they will automatically – unconsciously – view the things with which they interact from the perspective of finiteness and insufficiency. That is to say that, as they are introduced to a new discovery, or a new idea, they will naturally resonate with the incomplete aspects of that idea.  They will find the things about it that are not enough, or that are limited.

It would be difficult for a human of your day and time, to come across something new and different and see in it anything that violates these fundamental tenets of the game.  However, as you are well aware, humanity is coming across concepts – that is, the possibility – of infinite and sufficiency, in many of the things that you contemplate and even wish for, for the future of your beings.  You have ideas of infinite energy.  You have ideas of enough food to go around.  You have ideas of sustainable systems that might not negatively impact your environments as you perceive them.

Thus, Beloved Ones, the fact that you even have a contemplation of these concepts is because you are already lifting off the game, that is, lifting off of the energetic resonance with these fundamental beliefs.

What will your worlds be like once you see them through the lens of the infinite?  What will your bodies become when you are embodying the idea of the infinite?

A great many of you today look for change in your societies.  You greatly desire things that are different and in so doing, from your Five Senses perspective, you rage against that which is not.  Beloved Ones, your desires are wholly and completely possible and grounded in your expanding natures.  But as the universe is infinite, there will always be things that are not what you desire.  Today, because you view that from your Five Senses perspective, you see in that the finiteness and insufficiency.  That is, you view only so much room, only so much potential available to you all, and thus you compete, and thus you battle, and thus you believe that you must win your way forward, or else that finite space will be taken by something or someone else.

Quote: "A great many of you today look for change in your societies. You greatly desire things that are different and, in so doing, from your Five Senses perspective, you rage against that which is not. Beloved Ones, your desires are wholly and completely possible, and grounded, in your expanding natures. But as the universe is infinite, there will always be things that are now what you desire. As you begin to view this from the perspective of the infinite, it's not necessarily that you will view fewer opposing views. It's that the battle, the finiteness, that it stirs within you, will change." - Katie and The Chorus

As you begin to view this from the perspective of the infinite, it is not necessarily that you will view fewer or less desirable aspects of opposing views.  It’s that the battle, the finiteness, that it stirs within you, will change. You will begin to see the expansiveness of the infinite universe and how there is always and will forever be enough space for all perspectives.  That the idea of competition or winning, was the illusion.  And that from that expansive place you enter into a harmony with all life and all creation unlike anything your kind has a conscious memory of sensing.

There is enough for all. In fact, there is an infinite amount for all. 

Our love does not end.  Our love does not tire.  Our love does not wane.  It does not ebb and flow.  These are your concepts of a powerful experience that you came here to have.  Our love is infinite.  And Beloved Ones, we would suggest that, as you expand from this experience you will remember that…so is yours.  Your love is infinite for all creation….infinitely.

Quote: "Our love does not end. Our love does not tire. Our love does not wane. It does not ebb and flow. These are your concepts of a powerful experience that you came here to have. Our love is infinite. And, Beloved Ones, we would suggest that, as you expand from this experience you will remember that...so is yours. Your love is infinite for all creation...infinitely." - Katie and The Chorus

Excerpts from Katie

What exactly are boundaries? As humans, we have this idea of a thing, called a boundary.  A sort of emotional or figurative wall that we place between ourselves and the things that we either want to protect ourselves from, or prevent happening, or just want space from, perhaps.  We talk about boundaries as being a healthy concept. That it’s good to have these sorts of lines of separation between us and perhaps people who demand too much of us, or us and situations that are unsavory to us, that we don’t want to find ourselves mired in. We put up walls between ourselves and our family members or in-laws. We put up walls between us and overly demanding people at our jobs.  And woe to the person who has no boundaries, for that person will quickly be lost in a sea of competing interests and opinions…here on planet earth.

Today, The Chorus brought up two of the fundamental principles of the game: finiteness and insufficiency. And while at face value it might feel like that has little to do with boundaries, over time, I realized, that actually, it has quite a lot to do with it.

As The Chorus stated today finiteness and insufficiency are the fundamental tenets of our game, of the experience of limitation.  They were the very first beliefs that we manifested in our resonance with these frequencies of disallowance.  And by disallowance, we mean disallowing the perception of the infinite.  So, perhaps not surprisingly, two of our underlying core structures of the game is the idea in finiteness, but also insufficiency.  We don’t just believe that things are finite, due to end, due to withdraw, due to deteriorate, due to collapse – things can’t go on forever – we also believe that those things are not enough, or, as The Chorus says, just barely enough. And based on my conversations with The Chorus, they see these things as relatively the same.  Though if you ask a human ‘what’s the difference between not enough and just barely enough?’ A human will say: ‘everything.’ 

As usual, with the concepts The Chorus is pointing out, these concepts underlie our existences, construct our perceptions of our own existences, in ways that we are largely still unconscious to. Though we have already awoken to the idea that these are concepts, and that potentially things could be infinite, and that they could be abundant, there are still a great many aspects of this that drive our day-to-day business here in the game, unconsciously.

So why would The Chorus view the degrees of insufficiency – of not enough and just barely enough – the same, whereas a human would see the difference between life and death potentially in those things? What’s that gap? What’s the difference in perspective between how we do this and how The Chorus does?

Now I think the best way to talk about this today might be to take a tour…of planet earth. And together, we’re going to look at these ideas of finiteness and insufficiency from all the angles, from our perspective in the Five Senses, but also from The Chorus’s perspective. And, maybe by the time we get back, a lot of these things will feel very clear.  So let’s start.

Down the street from me are a couple of kids.  They’re outside playing right now.  And they’ve got all their cars and trucks and frisbees out on the lawn…they ride their bikes, then they run back to the balls, and then they run around and etc.  And then one of the brings out a truck.  A very special truck.  A red truck.  With all sorts of bells and whistles and diggers and things attached. And both boys want to play with the truck. They start to fight over it.  One of them says, ‘it’s mine!’ The other says, ‘I’d like a turn!’ He gets a turn, then the other one wants it back…

I say, ‘how do you view finiteness and insufficiency as playing out here? What are they doing that demonstrates it for you?’

And you say, ‘well, it’s pretty obvious.  There’s just one truck, and two boys and so they’re fighting over who gets to play with the truck.’

And I say, ‘exactly. From the Five Senses view point, what we are able to see with our eyes and our hands and our ears…the experience of this truck, there is just one truck.  Meaning the truck is finite, there is just one, and it is insufficient, or just barely sufficient.  Meaning, there are ways to split time in order to spread the experience of the truck around, but there’s not a way to spread it around at the same time.”

So as the boys continue to fight, the moms come out and I say, ‘watch this’…

Ok, now how do you view finiteness and insufficiency in this situation?

And you might say, “well, it’s still the same finiteness and its still the same insufficiency, but now they’re each getting turns.”

And I would say, “So they are experiencing the finiteness and insufficiency in the same way?”

And you would say, “yes.”

And I would say, “so they’re both only getting five minutes each?”

And you would say, “yeh.”

And then I would say, “why does that make a human feel better?”

And you would say, “well it doesn’t really, but it kinda does because it’s better than not being able to play with the truck at all.”

And I would say, “yeh. Now you’re getting closer to the mark.”

On the Five Senses, what we would view in that situation, about the two boys fighting over the truck, is exactly as we described: two boys, one truck.  However, from The Chorus’s perspective, they view the entire set-up as for that experience as slightly different. In that experience you have two humans, two children, who are subjecting themselves to finiteness and insufficiency.  Having those beliefs active as they look at the field of toys available to them on the lawn, they will both, almost inevitably, end up being drawn to something that causes an experience of insufficiency.  Meaning, you and I both see a lawn full of toys.  Many toys are actually in paris: two bikes, two balls and two of other things. But eventually one of them will pick up the truck and, unconsciously, both of them will activate beliefs about that scarcity, about the idea that there is only one of those trucks there. And so the experience of playing with the truck will naturally draw their attention.  They will naturally be drawn to it.

As they fight, over the experience of that truck, driven by their active beliefs of finiteness and insufficiency, they will very naturally forget about every other toy on the lawn, every other experience they could have, and, from The Chorus’s vantage point, their own sense of pure desire that would otherwise come into them from beyond the game.

Most children are not very interested in playing with a toy until they see another child playing with it. Younger siblings are often the strongest demonstration of this human belief, that they are very content to play with their own toys, but when an older sibling is viewed as playing with something, that child naturally wants to play with it, too.  For the most part, in the human consciousness, we chalk this up to a desire to be ‘like’ the older child…But actually it’s far more simple.  The child is experiencing some of the first physically manifested experiences of this idea of scarcity. The child does not consciously say, “I’m going to look across this room full of toys and I’m going to be really drawn to the one that I cannot have.” The child just does so.

This often continues through human childhood, over the course of several years, in which children grapple with, or have powerful manifestations of, being keenly aware of the things that they cannot have.  It does not matter that they have an entire bookshelf full of books, they are upset about the one story that you somehow misplaces and cannot find. It does not matter that they are surrounded by loving relatives, they are upset about the relative who is missing. It does not matter that they have a plate full of food in front of them that typically, every other night of the week that they enjoy, they are upset about the one type of food, that they love, that you did not serve them.

So, yes to both, as usual.

Yes, one truck, two boys.

But also, two humans who naturally ended up in the middle of the lawn fighting over that one red truck.

Should we move on? Terrific.

Let’s fly over to the other side of the world where I believe it’s already evening. Out of a great sea of houses, we pick one in particular and we land softly in the backyard. The sun has already set, the children are already in bed…an in this particular house, it’s a woman who lives alone and she’s sitting down and watching the news at the end of the day. Shall we watch what happens?

 From The Chorus’s perspective, the conflict over how to solve a perceived problem, is another great example of the unconscious way that finiteness and insufficiency structures the way that we interact with our environment. That all the solutions that we come up with will more naturally than not, be incomplete. Meaning, for every proposal we make for how to resolve something for a group of people, that solution will be insufficient for another group of people, that our mental capacities had been unable to account for.

This is a perfect instrument of the implementation of finiteness and insufficiency. That our minds are unable to handle an infinite number of possibilities. 

As we have talked about in previous episodes, our denial here, our inability to perceive the infinite, is the construct of the experience of limitation. And so we embody that, in all experiences that we have here. Up until recently of course, as we’ve started to awaken. And so, without our even conscious say so, as we walk into a conflict, a problem, and with very well meaning intention try to resolve it, those solutions will inevitably be incomplete.

It would be impossible for us – up until recently – to, from our perspective in the Five Senses, in this experience of limitation, to create a solution of completeness. Of infiniteness. Of infinite applicability.

Do we turn to each other and say ‘I like where your solution is going, but it’s not yet infinite?’ Do we say, ‘let’s try again. It’s not quite complete.’ Often not.

Humanity instead, does what it knows how to do, which is to move around Five Senses manifestations. To move around the objections, the agreements, the desires, the logistics of all of the existing perspective and manifestations into new and different packages, trying to create a complete solution.

And, I point out, this usually gets worse the more antagonistic the relationship is between the two parties.

And you say, “but why would that be?”

Well, as we’ve talked about before, love, from the perspective of The Chorus, is allowing. It’s not something you find pleasing, it’s a sort of trust. A flowing. And allowing of all that something is. And, from that vantage point, you are able to see more of the infinite IN that other person or that other thing.

If you have two parties that are closer in energetic proximity to love – that is, allowing – they are more likely to approach a complete solution, than a human who is more energized in the experience of incomplete.

When you have two parties that are antagonistic – meaning, they are very much not in a sense of love, or in a sense of allowing of the other party -perhaps instead they are activated on prevention, or protection, they are trying as much as possible to hold the other party at arms length from them and just shut them down, or contain them, or defeat them – it is far more likely that from that perspective, the solution that they come to, will be incomplete.

We fly to another country, not too far away. It’s still night. And as we approach you hear thunderous booms and explosions. And you see fire, and you hear yelling. And I say, “all right, that’s close enough. Let’s watch from way up here.”

And as you look down below, far below is the night, and you see shadows running around, and trucks and tanks, you turn to me and you say, “but this is a battlefield.”

And I say, “yeh, it is.”

And I say, “how you think they are experiencing finiteness and insufficiency right now.”

And you say, “but I don’t even know where I am? I don’t know what country this is. I don’t even know what this war is about. What are they fighting over?”

And I say, “would you like me to tell you?”

And you say, “Yeh, I guess so.”


Some of us are awakening to these things.  Some of us are seeing it. Some of us are realizing that something is up. Why does this keep happening? Why do humans keep doing this? What is it, about us, that leads us to these things?

But understand that we are awakening to this perspective from within the game. Meaning, sometimes we will be viewing this from an expanded perspective, and sometimes we will still be active in the beliefs, and in doing that we are able to more consciously recognize our own beliefs, and the beliefs of others.

I understand the impulse to hide. To run away from, not only all of the chaos in the world – meaning, a group of people who are awakening, who are perceiving powerful things, and by doing so are having an acute experience of the beliefs in limitation, from which they view those expansive desires. I get it, it can feel like chaos and nonstop conflict. And so running away from those things – turning them off, avoiding ‘those people’, keeping your energy positive – is A way to handle that. 

But I would like to point out an alternate view, one that The Chorus brought up today, which is: what we are coming to, what we are about remember, what we are beginning to recall, is that not only is the universe, but so is our capacity to love. Meaning, to allow. Everything.

And so while there are things inside of us that would tell us, “I cannot handle one more interview with that side…I can’t handle hearing about them, or seeing them,” and so you would say, “I am turning away from it all.” Some might even call that boundaries. “You have healthy boundaries. You don’t look at all of those things. You turn away from the things that you are powerless to do anything about. And so you preserve your mental health….”

That from the perspective of The Chorus, that boundary might be another example of finiteness and insufficiency because the establishment of that boundary is built upon a foundation of believing that you, and your capacity to love all of creation, is finite and insufficient.

Where we are heading is in an expanded version of self that is so vast and so unlimited, that we never run out of love, run out of solutions, run out of new ideas, run out of energy…and we sure as shit don’t ever run out of tolerance.

Tolerance is the idea that you can only stomach so much, that there are some things that naturally you like, there are some things you don’t but you can be ambivalent about, and then there are some things that you just can’t tolerate. This concept of tolerating. This concept of tolerance, is a human concept.

Infinite beings of love, don’t tolerate. They don’t have degrees of love. They don’t have degrees of allowing. It’s infinite, all of the time.

In thinking about other people, other ideas, other issues in the world…and when we contemplate, ‘what if the universe was infinite? What if there were infinite solutions? Infinite lands? Infinite space? Then it wouldn’t matter how close your space came to mine…mine’s infinite. And it has room forever, for all of the things that I prefer and I am never at risk by coming too close to your infinite space.’

And that’s understandable, and that we can sort of contemplate, and that’s great because we’ve come a long way, from where we were.

But today The Chorus is pressing on an even larger idea, which is allowing, infinitely, all that each of us are. The boundaries that we keep between us and others are simply reflections, a replicated structure, of the boundaries that we already have within ourselves.

Quote: "The boundaries that we keep between us and others are simply reflections, a replicated structure, of the boundaries we already have within ourselves." - Katie and The Chorus

Therapists and those in the mental health profession understand this intimately. That their clients often come to them, struggling with something, because they are on the verge of breaking down an internal wall.  That they are allowing a new part of themselves to be heard, to be understood, and to be allowed. 

We all have boundaries in our lives. This has been a perfect manifestation of our embodiment of finiteness and insufficiency. There are certain things we allow ourselves to think about and certain things we don’t. There are certain boundaries that we have in terms of separating responsibilities and desires. That we segment within ourselves the fearful parts of ourselves, which we don’t really want to hear from everyday…

In today’s modern understanding of these parts, we sort of challenge ourselves to uncover them, to hear them, to do work – whether literally or figuratively – to allow these parts of ourselves through. That understanding is solid. However, as usual, there are other perspectives on this process. 

And one perspective, that of The Chorus, would be: that as we are awakening, we will very naturally become aware of the boundaries that we have within ourselves.

Sometimes it’s not logic that’s talking. It’s a boundary. And our boundaries are structured by ‘rational thought’. By allowed manifestations, by agreeing with concepts that are agreed to by the whole Mass. Boundaries are noisy. Boundaries sound well thought through, boundaries sound assured and almost unquestionable. They have often been there all along, without our even knowing that they were. Until, you come to a point in your spiritual awakening that you realize that you are standing at the foot of a boundary that you didn’t even know was there.

It’s all of the things across the boundaries. Spirituality, religion, religious figures, extraterrestrials, beings that are non-physical, beings that are…all of these things relate to something that underlies all of the boundaries and what they’re standing on. Which is: us. And our expanding consciousness.  All of these things that we are coming to a new perspective on and a new understanding of. 

We do not consciously know when we are turning a blind eye to the boundaries that we have, when we are giving ourselves an incomplete experience of ourselves. That as we awaken to the underlying structure of finiteness of insufficiency we will start to spot more and more parts of the game board that reflect this.  Pieces of ourselves that were there all along, that we didn’t even know. And moreover, how much the boundaries are not needed, do not serve a purpose, in the ways that they did before, when we begin to expand into our more infinite selves. Where we are able to love, to experience, to understand, infinitely.

As we awaken to the ways in which we embody finiteness and insufficiency, one of the things we will start to notice are all the other players who are experiencing it too.  That we go from being blind to one of the main ways we are constructed, to understanding it, and then being able to spot it. 

One of the most powerful things that The Chorus said today, in my opinion, is that these two tenets – finiteness and insufficiency – underlie the structure for the ENTIRE game field. And then they said, “most specifically, we would like to say that all players, who experience any degree of finiteness and insufficiency are on your game board.”

They haven’t pressed too much on this point before now, but they’re starting to/

What they are suggesting is that they ways that we have defined ourselves and what it means to be human, could be viewed more broadly. That, just like we viewed finiteness and insufficiency from the Five Senses standpoint,…that we have also defined humanity that way.

It’s pretty simple, humans have heads and arms and eyes and feet and toes. We have bodies, we have human bodies. And then as some of us have started to have more expansive experiences of other life and other beings, we came up with a concept called humanoid. Where – there are some slight differences – and so it’s not quite human, it’s humanoid, with these slight variations in the general concept of the body.

And The Chorus is taking that concept and is basically blowing it out 10x. If you start to view yourselves from the broader context of everything that you believe, you will start to see similarities with other life and other beings who believe the things that you do. Maybe there are slight variations, maybe it’s a little different here and there…but essentially what they are saying is that ANY being, who experiences finiteness and insufficiency in ANY flavor, is in the game, with us.

What does that mean?


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